THE FLASH Boss Talks Tonight’s Big Reveal, Assembling the Rogues, and More

     March 31, 2015


It wouldn’t be an episode of The CW series The Flash, if it didn’t have another handful of big reveals, and the latest episode, “Tricksters,” was no exception. Thankfully, executive producer Andrew Kreisberg was available to answer some of the burning questions that arose with the latest twists to the story, following a screening of the episode.

With a handful of press, Andrew Kreisberg talked about the big secret reveal, an upcoming awkward double date with Barry as the fifth wheel, the outcome of genetic camouflage, rupturing the time field, and the plan to get the Rogues together. Be aware that there are some major spoilers.


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Question: Now that Eddie is in on the secret, how is he going to handle knowing that Barry Allen is The Flash?

ANDREW KREISBERG: It’s interesting, part of the fun of Eddie is that he’s such a nice guy and he’s such a good guy. When you have a love triangle, it’s hard for Barry to not like Eddie, even though he’s dating Iris, because he is a stand-up guy and he clearly cares about her. I think the biggest conflict that’s going to come between them is that Barry and Joe, whether it’s right or wrong, have made this decision to keep Iris in the dark about things. Eddie, as always, is the much more emotionally in-touch character and is like, “This is ridiculous! Not telling her, you’re actually putting her in more danger.” That actually starts to become the conflict between the three men.

Eddie is not happy with how Barry and Joe have been handling this, and it starts to really impact his relationship with Iris. There’s a great moment where he says to Barry, “How do you just lie to people like that?” It makes Barry look at himself and go, “Wait, when did I become such a great liar? I thought of myself as being so innocent and pure.” It really starts to grate on Eddie and Iris. In the next episode, which is the cross-over [with Arrow], Eddie, Iris, Barry, Felicity and Ray all go out for dinner. Everybody is talking about their feelings and Eddie and Iris get into a fight, and Barry is the fifth wheel. It’s fun!


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Given what we saw with Harrison Wells and Eobard Thawne, is there any part of Harrison that’s buried under there, or was he completely wiped?

KREISBERG: That’s actually something we were just writing the other day. He’s had a lot of times when he’s talked about Tess. I think one of the things that bled through was Wells’ love for Tess, and Thawne absorbed that when he absorbed his body. That’s a fun thing that’s come through. And we worked with Matt Letscher on Eli Stone. We’ve been working backwards, so when Greg [Berlanti] and I were trying to figure out why the blood wouldn’t just show them it was Wells, we talked about, “Well, what if Wells wasn’t Wells? What if he stole Wells’ body?” And we both just said that we should get Matt, who is so great at playing the villain. And we haven’t seen the last of him either.

Is that just future tech that allowed Eobard Thawne to take over Dr. Wells?

KREISBERG: It’s future tech. We’re calling it genetic camouflage, where he basically stole his body. He basically rewrote his DNA to match Wells’. But what happened to Harrison Wells’ real body, and what really happened that night, is going to start coming out. I know people were concerned about the events of Episode 15, when they were erased in Episode 16, but not all of it went away, as people are going to find out soon. I can’t wait for you to see the rest of the season.


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There are a lot of big moments in the show that are marked by chemicals or water or wine, raising in the air, defied by gravity. Is that a marker or indication that time is being altered?

KREISBERG: For us, the rise in liquid is always a harbinger of a space/time event, but it doesn’t have to be as clear-cut as time changing. The accelerator exploded, which was a massive space/time event. Because The Reverse-Flash came, they ruptured the time field. You’re going to see a cool one in Episode 19. But for us, when that happens, put on your seat belt and say goodbye. But it is not necessarily that time has been altered.

Is there any chance that we’ll ever see The Trickster hanging out with the other Rogues?

KREISBERG: Yes, that is the plan. What’s so fun for us, and why we’re so grateful to Mark for wanting to be a part of this, when I sit down and think about Wentworth Miller and Mark in a scene together, and watching the dichotomy of them, I get excited. Sometimes there’s a tendency to just spit out the same villain, week in and week, out on these shows. And for us, it’s fun to have people who are so different and who have powers and who are slightly unhinged but geniuses. That was the other reason we really wanted to do The Trickster.


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You have so many villains who have these amazing abilities, either because they’re metahumans or they have this incredible weaponry. What was always cool about The Trickster, on both series, is that he’s smart. No matter how crazy he was, he was so smart. He thought four steps ahead. A lot of times, our shows are about how to figure out, chemically or scientifically, how The Flash can use his powers to stop somebody. But with this one, they really had to out think him. Wells had to give Barry something he probably didn’t want to let him know that he could do.

The Flash airs on Tuesday nights on The CW.

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